-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In list.cypherpunks, ipgsales@cyberstation.net writes:
Unlike Mr. Silvernail, we have a much simplier definition of what we mean by a one time pad
First of all, I note to the list that I have exchanged some email with IPGsales, whence this reference comes. I had hoped there would be enough integrity in IPGsales that sie would note the difference between private mail and mail to the list. The gist of my mail has been that IPGsales likes to redefine accepted terms of art to their own benefit. I didn't (and don't) define what a one time pad is. I simply noted that PRNG-based systems are not one time pads, and asked that IPGsales refrain from mislabeling their system as such.
I do not want to argue semantics with Mr. Silvernail, or Mr. Metzger - they have an opinion - that does not prove them right - they are entitled to their opinion - but they would rather castigate us out of hand than prove us wrong -
Any castigation I offered was far from "out of hand". IPGsales is promoting a system using plainly incorrect terminology. IMHO, this choice of terminology speaks volumes about the crypto expertise (or lack thereof) they have brought to the table.
they want to talk, talk, talk but not do anything. It is obviously that both are dodging the issue, by taking their own narrow minded view of what is and is not the truth - both are all talk but no action - a lot of bull and arbitrary posturing, but that is all itis, pure unadultarated bull - .
Consider it, then, a response in kind to your own unadulterated bull.
I believe that since Mr. Silvernail and Mr. Metzger have exluded themselves, that Derek, Inccarth and Adam do have that intellectual honesty to tell the truth - is that weighted too much in IPGs favor.
I'll guess here that my refusal to accept IPGsales' new definitions for accepted terms has been taken as 'excluding myself'. So be it. Perhaps IPGsales is miffed that I said I would advise my clients against their product.
What can be more fair than that, you own members can be the entire judging committee - are you afraid of the truth - if you cannot accept that you are. Tthat could be your only real reason fornot facing it. I believe that many of you are now backtracfking because you are afraid of the truth - we invite whatever number you might choose to try - if some subset of Cyberpunks break the system, then they can publish everything -
(can anyone else parse this?) BTW, this ain't alt.cyberpunk. More problems with terminology? I don't have to break the IPG system. It was born broken. I am not about to trust my key generation to people who can't even get basic technical terms correct, much less trust them not to send copies of the keys offsite to the NSA^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H for disposal. (recall that IPGsales said no copies of the keys were retained _by them_) Snake oil is only good if you have a squeaky snake. - -- Roy M. Silvernail, writing from roy@cybrspc.mn.org "Ah, man.. you hit the nails right on the heads there. However, I think you drove them right into your own forehead." -- datsun@wasteland.spam.org (Datsun Q. Wanderer) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMSsdlhvikii9febJAQEXIwP/bEIyYaP8/meDg5Hdlg48vDlubHRVPJOL q88FrEdbu/EQa+WFcDmAwPRxg1M5BWGVgerFG+mYZnguPDr/qZ2vMEbuAzjhe4M2 iNdtE6C+JvrZfnRWDnGDywIrRXf9BYmWAZgkj2T4inP7thANcF8El0attCe7553M xC4lXeDLtaA= =xZEt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----