On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Adam Back wrote:
My vote is for renaming: `cypherpunks-unedited' -> `cypherpunks' and `cypherpunks' -> `cypherpunks-edited'
I have to agree. I'm only a 'cypherpunk' in the sense of setting up various crypto-related Web sites and writing and giving away thousands of lines of cryptography code rather than regularly posting to the list, but my main concern is that the default for the list has gone from anarchy to moderation. If the users of the list truly believe in anarchistic solutions to problems then the moderated list should exist *in addition* to the unmoderated list, rather than replacing it. In a truly anarchistic society the cypherpunks list would be an unmoderated forum full of spam and opinions related in some way to the list topics and numerous moderators would charge us for their versions of the list in which they simply pass on the messages they like. We could then choose a moderator whose interests are similar to ours and pay them for providing us with apropriate information. IMHO this is the way that mailing lists and Usenet are likely to evolve as they become too large for us to read and react to all posts; we should be in the vanguard of creating appropriate solutions to the problems. Providing a moderated list which saves me from dowloading spam is a worthwhile exercise which is potentially valuable to me (and I'm grateful to Sandy for offering such a service for free), but I do not believe that it should be the default for new subscribers. Mark |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |Mark Grant M.A., U.L.C. EMAIL: mark@unicorn.com | |WWW: http://www.unicorn.com/ MAILBOT: bot@unicorn.com | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|