Quoting Jim Choate (ravage@ssz.com):
On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
However, this means that IF you have due process, then a person CAN be compelled to be a witness against himself, and be deprived of life, liberty and property. Hence using truth drugs or torture would be perfectly constitutional if due process is used, according to the Fifth Amendment. As a supporter of the Constitution you are now obligated to defend to the death those who would torture prisoners, as long as they first get a judge's approval.
You ignoramus....'cruel and unusual punishment'.
No problem. Wouldn't a judge be the one who decides what cruel and unusual punishment would be? And once there's a precedent... Well, it's easy to decide someone else's fate, eh? Regards, Steve -- Oldthinkers unbellyfeel Ingsoc.