On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:21:32AM -0800, Tim May wrote: | On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 07:55 AM, Harmon Seaver wrote: | | > Dubbya should be impeached, and both he and Asscruft arrested for | > treason. | | Quite interesting the language they keep using: "Terrorists don't have | rights." | | The 1200 persons detained without due process, without habeas corpus, | for close to three months, are presumed to be "terrorists" and thus are | denied the rights guaranteed by the Constitution. No, they're not. See this article in yesterday's Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/28/national/28LEGA.html?ex=1007614800&en=ec5ced02619720c8&ei=5040&partner=MOREOVER
"After two months of conducting the domestic war on terrorism largely in private, the prospect of stiff public scrutiny of his Justice Department apparently moved Mr. Ashcroft to provide many more details about 548 people, mostly from Mideastern countries, in custody and charged with violations of immigration law, and to release the names and more details of about 100 people charged with other crimes."
What grounds Ashcroft is using to deny them their civil rights is not clear. Who will rid me of this meddlesome Constitution, indeed. | The police state measures rushed into law by Congress will be used to | suppress dissidents long after this war is over. Quite sad. There was an article in IP last night about Canada doing the same thing; defining protesters as terrorists. (There's a history here; the RCMP was quite vicious in its post-arrest treatment of protesters against some Indonesian dictator a few years ago.) http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200111/msg0037... The irony of my longstanding sig may soon be more than I can stand. Adam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume