As I put on my flame resistant suit... IMHO, most of the posts about John Gilmore's action re: Dr. Vulis are seriously miss-analyzing what has happened. As far as I can tell, John instructed his Majordomo to refuse subscription requests to cypherpunks from Dr. Vulis. That is all that John has done. What John has not done is: (1) John has not censored Dr. Vulis. He is still free to speak to cypherpunks by posting in the normal manner. (2) John as not turned to the courts as some others have suggested. Turning to the courts would certainly not be the way a cryptoanarchist would handle the situation. The best paradigm I can come up with to analyze John's action is my quite imperfect understanding of communitarian theory. In essence, communitarians say that there should be a level of social control between individual rights and the forceful coercion of the state. What John has done is step forward and excommunicate Dr. Vulis. He has said to Dr. Vulis, "You are no longer a member of the cypherpunks community." I would love to hear how people feel this action fits in to the cryptoanarchy, libertarian utopias we frequently discuss. E.g. Why is it not a perfectly reasonable action for some one to take in an anarchy? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | Tired of Dole/Clinton? | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | Vote 3rd party. I'm | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz@netcom.com | Voting for Harry Browne | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA