On Saturday, August 30, 2003, at 01:02 AM, Tim wrote:
J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Tim May wrote:
But when Big Brother commands that his Carnivore boxes be added, ISPs are afraid to shoot his agents who trespass.
Just for the record, as someone who is in a position to have first-hand personal knowledge of this...
When the various plastic-id carrying critters came around asking to let ISPs install Carnivores just after 9/11, they were almost all turned away. The notable exceptions were from companies that are (not surprisingly) based outside of the US.
I was *stunned* at how many ISPs told them to fuck off (including, I am happy to say, the one I work at)..
So in other words, Tim May doesn't know what the hell he's talking about (again)!
A silly bit of logic on your part. The ISPs which have NOT narced out their customers, who may be in the majority, have nothing to fear. It's the ISPs which HAVE we are talking about. You confuse existence with magnitude. Logic eludes you. --Tim May