I agree wholeheartedly that a commandline, portable, version should come first. Porting that separately to X, Win, Mac, etc will not be nearly the chore that porting a Windows app to Unix will be. Re: the ubiquity of Windows: LOTS of people have Windows. But... The idea that new machine sales are mostly Windows machines is given the lie somewhat by the fact that they are also all DOS machines, and that Windows is just bundled. Many people don't install it due to the disk space leeching. And a LOT of people with Windows don't use it for comm stuff because Windows + comm = nightmare. So yes, make a Windows version. NO don't start with a windows version. One of your biggest markets will be the BBS crowd, 90+% of whom use DOS, not Windows, for comm apps. And I still heartily recommend tackling this from several different angles. Sure make a new term, but also get Telix, et all to go along with it. Get Fido-tech mailer makers to support the ^ENC "standard", etc. -- When marriage is outlawed only outlaws will be inlaws! Stanton McCandlish, SysOp: Noise in the Void DataCenter Library BBS Internet anton@hydra.unm.edu IndraNet: 369:1/1 FidoNet: 1:301/2 Snail: 1811-B Coal Pl. SE, Albuquerque, New Mexico 87108 USA Data phone: +1-505-246-8515 (24hr, 1200-14400 v32bis, N-8-1) Vox phone: +1-505-247-3402 (bps rate varies, depends on if you woke me up...:)