On Sat, 28 May 2011, Ted Smith wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 22:50 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Fri, 27 May 2011, Ted Smith wrote:
Hopefully now the people on the mailing list who stupidly propose and stupidly shoot down PET-related freedombox things will shut up, since it's clear they have no actual say.
"Stupidly"? Is it "stupid" because it's a view you disagree with, or is it stupid for some other STUPID, ad-hominem reason?
//Alif
A lot of (sure, not all, but most) the PET-related ideas are stupid,
*I* think most, if not all of the current ideas for the FB are *technologically unworkable* (at this time anyway), but thats a *long* way from "stupid". Sorry Ted, but by declaring everything as "stupid", it is *you* who are arguing from false authority (and with straw arguments no less). Do you even listen to yourself?
and shooting down ideas because they aren't in keeping with the "vision of the FreedomBox" is stupid unless you work for the FBF and actually can state with authority what is and isn't the freedombox.
As an "open" project, *everyone* is both encouraged and entitled to put forward their own visions of the FB - that said, the box *is* the dominion of the FBF, and their word *is* the last one. The ideas put forward from "outside" the FBF are *not* "stupid" just because you don't believe they are (a) viable; (b) correct for the FBF's "vision"; (c) any other reason you can state. "Stupid" is an attack term and nothing more. It doesn't add to the discourse, in fact, it just makes *you* look "stupid" for arguing from behind that curtain.
The mailing list has turned into a platform for:
* people with little to no PET experience to propose crazy ideas
The list is specifically *designed* to solicit such input Ted. Even uninformed or, to use your next ad hominem, "crazy" inputs: specifically because they *may* lead the FBF into new directions. <SNIP>
* people to shout down the above people with non-existent authority.
Um, PKB: see above.
For a project that got a pretty good amount of money on kickstarter, that's just stupid.
And there's the trifecta. :-( //Alif -- I hate Missouri. Land of the free, home of the perjuriously deranged.