A typo when I wrote: 2. Eliminates a reason for controlling the distribution and export of browsers, mailers, newsreaders, etc. Imagine the glum reaction of the NSA when they realize that they can't control these programs, because the "crypto hooks" are only the hooks to basic message payloads...and they control these. ^ *can't* I meant to include the "can't." A Web browser with no hooks for crypto absolutely will not be export-controlled. But if users in Slovakia and Beninia can _see_ the messages, as they of course can, then crypto programs they supply themselves can of course see and act on the messages. (Copying to a clipboard, for example, and lots of other ways.) No way the NSA can control that. Concentrating on integrating crypto tightly into commercial programs is playing the NSA's game. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."