At 1:52 am -0400 on 6/2/97, Lee Tien wrote:
First, he led EFF to ignominious defeat with the digital telephony bill, and now, like some kind of political gremlin, emerging unscathed after engineering *that* jumbo-jet plane crash, he starts up EPIC, where he slipstreams no-brainer ACLU court cases like CDA to stay in the beltway pelleton.
Marc Rotenberg never led EFF; he led CPSR-Washington which became EPIC.
Bob may be thinking of Jerry Berman, who ran EFF for a few years, was involved in its actions re Digital Telephony, and then left to start up CDT.
Woops. Damn. And I was having so much fun with that plasma cannon, too. :-). In my own defense, I have to say that it's easy to get all those net.piglets confused, with them all piled up on top of each other at the Washington sowbelly like that... Nonetheless, even if I, um, revise and extend, the offending acronymous 30 words or so, it doesn't change what I said at all in the rest of my little outburst of vitriol. It certainly doesn't change my opinion about Mr. Rotenberg, or Mr. Berman, or anyone else "fighting" for my "rights" at a rubber-chicken banquet, or at a cocktail party, or on golf junket somewhere... Dr. Froomkin, who I admire and respect very much, may call remarks like those cannibalism (nice Carib indian word, cannibal), but for myself, I prefer to think of it as Texas barbeque. :-). Here, Micheal, have some of those baby back ribs over there. I just made them myself. Just a touch of habanero in the sauce (and Pearl beer, of course) makes all the difference in the world. Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com), Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/