Some quick tidbits from a lurker...I had read about Intergraph being unhappy with AT&T. I called up Intergraph and talked to someone in their legal department about the possibility of them going after AT&T for trademark infringements. She said they were looking into that possibility, and asked me to send her what information I could on Clipper. Hopefully this will prove to be fruitful in disarming the Wiretap Chip. I'd post her email address but I don't have it at home with me right now. Also, this doesn't fall in line with the Wiretap chip, but has anyone implemented fossil routines with some type of encryption? I am not completely familiar with the ins and outs of cryptography but I am more than willing to write up all the fossil routines for a dos machine. I guess dos is the only thing that has fossils though. Lastly, I just wanted to see what other Huntsville cypherpunks might be lurking about. If so then I would like to hear from you. mmidboe@uahcs2.uah.edu