On Aug 20, 12:18pm, Timothy C. May wrote:
At 5:38 PM 8/20/96, Stephen Cobb wrote:
Very true...what I am saying is that, as far as my reading goes, LEGAL aliens are going to be required to pay social security "taxes" while not having any "entitlement" in return. They pay income taxes and get certain things, like law and order, in return. They will be paying soc sec money to the government without getting anything in return. I think the "no driver's licenses to illegal aliens" makes a certain kind of sense, though. (Not that I don't have some compassion for them, being an open borders advocate.) If the State gives official documents to illegal aliens, what's the point of their being classified as illegal aliens?
Erm. Tim seems to be writing about how it doesn't make much sense to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens and Stephen is writing about how Arizona is planning to not give driver's licenses to legal aliens. Which would appear to be talking at crosspurposes. I'm a PLRA in the USA, so it does matter somewhat to me that i might be unable to get a driver's license in a country i could legally reside in because i'm not a citizen of that country. Especially if that country won't let me drive for extended periods of time on a driver's license issued elsewhere. If the State won't give me official documents (as a legal alien), what's the point of being classified as a legal alien? (Except more exciting interrogations every time i cross the border?) Tim's opinions on illegal immigrants, good, but don't really apply so much to PLRAs (who cannot vote, but can pay taxes and be drafted). [Which is, i think, what Stephen was writing about in the first place.] richard -- Richard Martin [not speaking for a|w] rmartin@aw.sgi.com http://reality.sgi.com/rmartin_aw/ Alias|Wavefront - Toronto Office [Co-op Software Developer, Games Team] NOTE: My email address as of August 23 1996 is g4frodo@cdf.utoronto.ca