John Young wrote... "No, there's no contrast between commies and libertarians, left and right, they're all producing vast lakes of pig shit and blaming the foul odor of bloated self-interest on low-brow non-think chimeras of the government, corporations, the rich, the poor, the opposite, the other, those who are different, those who have more, or less, or get more attention, or fail to show respect, or who make fun of your fundamental beliefs, or insult your morals, ethics, aesthetics, politics, accomplishments, looks, way of talking, writing, joking, and worse, who have a knack for pushing overmuch sacred buttons of your ingrown fearful neurotic cult armed to the teeth with weapons of iron and spleen and inner infant hurt feelings, not understanding or giving a whit what you're deeply serious about, pathologically incapable of escaping the force of." Holy shit, Young. That was a grade-A rant, verging on the poetic. Kinda the Finnegans Wake of Cypherpunk posts. Needless to say, I didn't fully understand it, but that's no matter. -TD _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail