-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Re development of crypto term software for PC and/or Unix platform(s): It seems like there are three general ways to approach this problem: 1. Offline reader style - ala QuickMail and its cronies - popular with DOS BBS's. 2. Waffle/UUPC style. 3. As an actual term program, but with an intelligent scrollback buffer/ASCII send module added. I have, several times, wished for a "guerilla offline reader" - a reader to collect all of the messages in all of the newsgroups (from my .newsrc file) that I read on some arbitrary Unix box, collect them into a file, compress it, and send them to my PC with Zmodem, so that I can browse at my leisure. Waffle/UUPC and a newsfeed is a better solution, but requires the cooperation of one's local sysadmin, who isn't necessarily interested in feeding someone news at 2400 bps. The ironic thing is that they don't care if you spend 4 hrs/day using that modem to read news - they just don't want you to tie it up for 45 mins with a small newsfeed. (Yes, there is the spool directory problem - and no, I don't think a flamewar about admins is useful here.) If we/I did something like this - it ought to be possible to do it in a shell script, or shell script + awk - and incorporated the means to receive/unpack a reply packet - I think it might be a good thing. The basic idea is to expand the access one's got via a networked Unix box to one's home machine, without necessarily requiring the permission or knowledge of local sysadmins. (No, I am not unfamiliar with the plight or circumstances of an arbitrary Unix sysadmin. I administrate a small system now, have been in charge of larger ones in the past, and have some experience with users doing peculiar and squirrely stuff with one's machine. :) I also don't think that what I'm proposing breaks either the letter or the intent of a reasonable security policy - but it is the sort of thing to make a control freak sysadmin go nuts.) Seems like the best way to implement the term program would be to add some intelligence to the "scrollback" (a buffer that holds the last 'n' lines of text appearing on the screen) which would allow it to find, extract, and process the --- BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE --- bits. The other side of this would be a process which would, given the name of a file on disk (or an editor buffer) locally, process it (sign,encrypt,whatever) and upload the results. This would be interesting, but I dunno if we'd be able to write something nice enough to become as widespread as Telix, Procomm, or whatever. (I also wonder if it's possible to add hooks to Telix/Procomm to do similar stuff.) For what it's worth, I have experience in C, and have fooled around with little assembly programs to read/write the PC's serial port on an interrupt-driven basis. (The use of a FOSSIL driver seems intelligent here, though.) I have written a PGP keyserver to run as an attachment to a DOS Waffle system, and intend to expand and improve that if I can get some free time. I'm interested in working on this stuff but am less interested in re-inventing any wheels. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.2 iQCVAgUBLAw+f33YhjZY3fMNAQHdTAQAr9sk4WdPxC/Bz8i5tEZ/ammwaUt6rEtL 13wMPT+L9JXGrgMNoey6EGjmrHXH9C0DweXGhPYIzq9U8EW9xmsacwEPets+sVJv T90gM/+aeQkixgRb93FIqIpCnRVzF9lQcin0v4e69s6mMk0y6WTQMEJkDXbKvKTM lCK6WBakWws= =QCej -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Greg Broiles greg@goldenbear.com Golden Bear Computer Consulting +1 503 465 0325 Box 12005 Eugene OR 97440 BBS: +1 503 687 7764