if you get the usual 150+ msg/day I do, you break it up into folders, set the reader to proceed sequentially through the folders, in an order defined in .pinerc. I have 30 folders current. when a particular person becomes annoying: # net assholes :0 HB * ( Fred.*Cohen|fc@all.net|vznuri|kevin.dirks ) assholes takes care of the problem nicely. If you get bored with a newsletter, etc. I move its folder address in procmail to "bigsleep" and every so often I try to cancel the group. Now, if I wish to really get hostile, I have a little program which returns the message showing "bounce@..." in the From:, Reply-To:, and Sent-By: fields. At the top of the body it 'shouts' the sender is objectionable and the mail returned. It does keep a log of who it bounced and if it one of the no-return types, it 'learns' from another list to use /dev/null. There is no limit to how far you can go, including mail bombing. spoofing the top line From is hard to do for lack of insecure mailers, but it can be done by other means. The only spammer I have had trouble discouraging is nashville.net. But I really do not believe in mail bombing as it hurts too many bystanders --cheap to generate, but expensive to clean up after. So, indulge in procmail(), premail(), formail(), and older versions of smail() and join the fun. __________________________________________________________________________ go not unto usenet for advice, for the inhabitants thereof will say: yes, and no, and maybe, and I don't know, and fuck-off. _________________________________________________________________ attila__ To be a ruler of men, you need at least 12 inches....