On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Martin Minow wrote:
Since I've been in this business for well over thirty years and, about ten years ago, had one of my systems infested by Kevin Mitnick, I'm not particularly sympathetic to the "we're just trying to learn" mentality -- if you want to learn, buy a PC and a Linux CD, write some code, give it away, and make a real contribution to the community.
The taped interview lasted more than two hours, with only five minutes airing, so a lot of statements from our mouth is still out of context. As far as your learning suggestions, I have over 17 years of experience in this "underground community", have owned every type of machine available, can safely guess I have written a large amount of source code equivelent to some of the best, always give it away, and can definitely say I have made more a contribution than you could ever hope for in your wildest dreams. :) Dealing with the media is a double edge sword. They contacted me, gaveme their bent, and tpaed with me. You can figure out of two hours of tape, that with five minutes showing, vaery mnay important points got left out which would have put aired statements into context. You never know what they, and their editors, ultimately put in the story, for which I have yet to see due to my presence at Defcon. Know who you flame before you do so. :) No hard feelings. se7en