. ."Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> wrote: . .>I guess I'm not much of a joiner. I never donated to the United Way .> et tu, Brute? I thought I was the only one who deliberately stiffed the United Way, The recent jailing of the national chairman of the United Way for pilfering multiple millions from the coffers, and squandering even more on lavish expense account jet-setting... is more than adequate justification to stiff the United Way. .>If this sounds harsh, so be it. .>Cypherpunks is not about redistributing wealth. .> no, cypherpunks is not about redistributing the wealth; at least, certainly not the vocal, active active members, and probably most of the rest as organized politics turns the stomach of anyone of knowledge, even skewed as it may be. redistributing the wealth is over in *.politics.*, &c. In <9609248461.AA846180758@smtplink.alis.ca>, on 10/24/96 at 11:13 AM, jbugden@smtplink.alis.ca said: .Ahh, but you don't really believe this. Your vision of cypherpunks is .all about redistributing wealth. Just not in the sense you speak of. . Tim redistributing the wealth?!? I'll be ROTFL for days over the "insult." Come on, James, get with the program. Arguing that the elite rich are narrowing our margins as they steal from 99% of the population, and *maybe* they need to be curtailed, in not redistribution of wealth --in Canada, you call the real thing the National Health Services which supposedly provides cradle to the grave social services (which is bankrupting Canada). .There is naivete and then there is complicity. . I dunno, James... so where do you draw the line? Isn't most anyone who accepts money for employment these days guilty of complicity? If not, why not? --they are, after all, selling their principles for the proverbial loaf of bread. I agree there can be stupidity --Americans, in particular, with 30% functionally illiterate are more often stupid and uninformed than most members of the industrial world, However, even these "mentally challenged" (note the politically correct terminology) sloths (not very PC) have the one eyed monster telling them all the truth their masters wish them to hear. we do not have political consultants and advertising agencies --we have PR teams. since the usurpers of the public trust don't allow me to enter: "none of the above" I have never voted --I'm just waiting for the time the politicals stage an election and noboy votes --that is one of the few means of telling them we dont like what any of the stooges will actually do when elected. ==attila (6A27:0920 UT)