At 23:07 1/30/96, Rich Graves wrote: [...]
We won't have won until they restore the routes to Webcom.
Here I have trouble with the word "we," and what we're trying to accomplish.
Censorship has clearly lost. Germany is simply not going to block stanford.edu, cmu.edu, mit.edu, upenn.edu, aol.com, and so on, not to mention AFS.
But they succeeded in blocking Webcom. Until the block is removed, we haven't won. Do 'we' agree that the block should be removed?
I do not believe that the battle to get people to read and care about Zundel himself is ours.
Amen. I just wished that the people who's names mark some of the milestones in the fights for our rights (i.e, Miranda, as in Miranda Rights) were people whose causes I can support. Having seen concentration camps, I can not possibly sympathize with Mr. Zündel's views. But he still has a right to free speech. If he loses it, we lose it. It all comes down to this: First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945. [...]
I do not want to allow the Nazis to associate themselves with "us." Please see article <DM0Fsn.5GC@freenet.carleton.ca> for a little on what they're trying to claim credit for. Note they are calling for mirror sites nearly three days after they popped up, with no involvement on their part whatsoever.
I can imagine what they wrote. "The world is supporting our cause...." No, I do not support their cause. I despise their cause. And I still support their rights. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.