Heard enough about Clipper? I have been receiving cypherpunk material for about a week now. I am new to cryptography, and new to security(feel free to laugh). I hope this posting is appropriate.. Well enough excuses for what I am about to say but I might like Clipper. 1.) From what I am hearing (largely propaganda from both sides) Clipper will be OPTIONAL. If I am businessman X and I dont know squat about security (but realize it is a good thing) wouldnt I want something I could feel secure with? For me, wouldnt Clipper be a good thig? 2) If, for some reason, I wanted to keep something even more secure so the government couldnt see what I was doing, couldnt I just encrypt a message before or after it goes through the Clipper Chip? I would think this would prevent the government as well as anyone else from reading my message en route 3) Right now I can pick up cellular phone conversations and intercept data through any network lines with a datascope. For anyone who doesnt wan this to occur wouldnt it be nice if they couldat least be reasonably certain that no one could understand what they are hearing or seeing? 4) Also, would it be unreasonable to have an on/off switch on the Clipper chip? Please dont assume me to be a pro-clipper individual. I am merely trying to form a logical, educated opinion on the issue. I will always feel skeptical when the FBI say we just need this to maintain our current state of survellience capability (or is that survellience state ;-) And I am also aware that if anybody thinks these keys will be kept confidential unless the government has a warrant blah blah blah well I better stop there.......... lake@uenics.evansville.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Space for rent ----------------------------------------------------------------------------