Kinko's got sued over selling the "student packets", there was a big flap over it a few years ago in academia, but as I recall the end result was that professors are more careful to have written permission from the publishers in hand, and the packets are still being sold. Most publishers are cooperating -- it's simply that the material is in the library, the portions of the books used is not large enough that students would buy them anyway -- as opposed to actual "textbooks" that they do purchase, so it seems a reasonable "fair use" compromise. In most of these cases the publishers realizer that they aren't going to sell more books by refusing, the authors realize that they'll get more exposure, more recognition, and the students don't have to spend hours in the library waiting for someone else to finish copying the materials. But as I said, most professors are being much more careful about getting permission beforehand and most copy places are being more careful about what they sell. At the biomedical library I worked at, the copiers only worked if you had a special card, and only students and faculty had the cards, since copying the medical texts and selling them to law firms and clinics was/is a lucrative business and was a principal income for the library. Don't know how the DMCA has affected them. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com