On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Justin wrote:
Jim Dixon (2003-12-19 13:30Z) wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, J.A. Terranson wrote:
In a nutshell, our Constitution *recognizes* universal human rights. It does not *establish* these rights. If we are going to be faithful to this premise, physical location is a non-sequitor.
This is a valid and probably commendable political position. I do not believe, however, that it reflects current practice in the USA or elsewhere.
If these rights apply to everyone at all times, how does war work? War is clearly a deprivation of life, liberty, or property without due process. Which of those three are suffering deprivation depends on the type of war and particular battle plans.
Precisely. Under this viewpoint, [initiation of] war does *not* work. We have zero moral authority to wage war under the system we pretend to operate under. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org "Unbridled nationalism, as distinguished from a sane and legitimate patriotism, must give way to a wider loyalty, to the love of humanity as a whole. Bah'u'llh's statement is: "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." The Promise of World Peace http://www.us.bahai.org/interactive/pdaFiles/pwp.htm