-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- tim: two points you make: 1. the propogation is slow... 2. some sites do not carry alt. groups are enough to kill an active discussion list. of course, it does slow down excessive volume. I vote we just set up a new majordomo with some additional antispam filters including knocking out exploding mail headers, etc. I would accept excluding non-members as long as we take the remailers which are listed with either JP or RL. Therefore, I am willing to host it on our majordomo which I have pretty well shaken down for other lists. other than spam and potentially non-members, I refuse to even consider censorship or moderation in any form. Likewise, Jim Choate and Sten Drescher apparently are trying to establish a multi-site majordomo. the extra work of maintaining non-duplicates and sychronization makes the task non-trivial and questionable... as for failure mode recovery, I can always run a backup from primenet; I dont really see the need for it; we have had less than 4 hours downtime in the last year, and that for a regional power failure which will be a mute point sometime this spring when the diesal generators arrive. knock on wood, but the T1 has been up straight through. == "attila" 1024/C20B6905/23 D0 FA 7F 6A 8F 60 66 BC AF AE 56 98 C0 D7 B0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQCVAwUBMwDJNb04kQrCC2kFAQGXqQQAlq5OAvJln7RdBwD758DuEBsb6kcECP+N ij1nknAm2xVXaUrhXBC/q7OQblSq3RP9l5N4nh3Wo9P50wCLqFX8D7tOZvJi+psD EfNk+tXQU5bKb1tZ06Jl4yFGqBSV0FKqeJ3FIgFNlqpdLfwG8k8OiDxUz3skw6ns 7QKjuAsPwUc= =Lw6q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----