Things like this are what organs like Computer Underground Digest, a.k.a CuD, are always crying for. It might not be bad to bounce a message or two to the RISKS Digest as well. The best way to fight this sort of quite strangulation is to bring it out into the light. People are starting to look at the Internet as a nascent version of the next ubiqitous telecommunications technology. If we speak from the stand of "we want to have privacy technology ready for the day the general public gets this technology, and these guys are getting in the way...", then we have an opportunity to get the libraries, researchers, and other current net users up in arms about these developments. Bob Stratton Engineer, InterCon Systems Corp. strat@intercon.com +1 703 709 5525