From: me <bucsplace@cchat.com> Subject: IP: [Fwd: Govt.Storing MRE's In Caves] Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 08:45:42 -0400 To: IP <ignition-point@majordomo.pobox.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------08FDE2A053FE721F529722FE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------08FDE2A053FE721F529722FE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Path: news.dx.net!uunet!in5.uu.net!xmission!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews3 From: "Steve" <peach2@rocketmail.com> Newsgroups: misc.survivalism Subject: Re: Govt.Storing MRE's In Caves Date: 7 Sep 1998 23:00:31 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Message-ID: <01bddab3$a25f5600$d34ae5d0@maddog1.camalott.com> References: <1998090721534800.RAA12052@ladder01.news.aol.com> Reply-To: "Steve" <maddog1@camalott.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-499.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 I can vouch for the existance of these caves in KC.....been by there many times in the days of my youth( lived there '56-'88). The interesting thing is the government(FED) kicked the private business's that were using them for warehousing/storage out....declaring that the caves were unsafe and dangerous. Funny thing is.....they weren't unsafe enough for the FED's to use. Steve West Texas -- "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." --- Abraham Lincoln "You know, of course, that this means war..." Bugs Bunny to Elmer Fudd: 1942 PAPACHUBY2 <papachuby2@aol.com> wrote in article <1998090721534800.RAA12052@ladder01.news.aol.com>... Hi, This is off the Ark list. Interesting. S. Below are two differnet notes that I received today. I took all the return paths off of these so that they can be passed around. I personally know both sources and they are EXTREMELY credible. Perhaps we can locate a source near Kansas City..to look into this (with pictures)......I am MOST curious... marie - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - name Here's the post I received yesterday from a Y2K chat friend regarding the situation. The second message is one I received today from him. He'll be keeping me posted on what else he learns. Jeff
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Yesterday's Post------- Dear friends, As some of you know, I live in a poor and working class neighborhood in kansas city, and am involved with various activities that help poor people become less poor. As part of this, I often take in people who are homeless, or would be if not for a safe harbor. One of my housemates just got a four month temporary job unloading trucks at an underground storage center located near my neighborhood (KC has a lot of underground limestone caves that are used for storage). Anyway, this particular contract is a government contract, and the product being unloaded and stored is MRE's. that is, "meal ready to eat", which i believe is the current incarnation of the old army c rations. how many mre's are on a truck? all day, 8 hours a day, for four months. that is a LOT of meals ready to eat. Note that I didn't hear this from somebody who heard from somebody, i heard this from somebody in my own household who is unloading the mres, beginning at 7:30 in the am. Three things: First, I am comforted to know that this large amount of food is being stored here locally. Second, if you have any fiends or acquaintances who do temporary labor or casual jobs, you might ask around and see if any such operations are going on in your city.Three, somebody is taking this really seriously. mre's aren't cheap. Today's Post -------------- Dear Jeff and everybody, Today they unloaded nine trucks, and then were let go early because some additional expected trucks didn't show. It takes two guys about 1-1/2 hours to unload a truck, and each gets $35. Don't know if this space has been used to store mre's before, but that's on the list of questions to scope out. It does seem to be a government contract, the supervisors seem sure of that. It has been confirmed that this is new, that is, it isn't the regular cold storage location for Ft. Leonard Wood, etc. One of the other laborers said that each truck had 3500 cases, so today there were nine trucks times 3500 cases equals 31,500 cases. Anybody know how many mre's are in a case? This would seem to be literally an enormous amount of food, as if there were six mre's in each case, that would mean 189,000 means were unloaded today alone, and today was a short day. He was called back to work at 3:30 in the afternoon, but the expected trucks still didn't arrive. Note that the laborers apparently have to +spc- a certain amount of time sitting around and waiting. Since the contract is for four months, 22 work days a month, and if today's unloading was an average work day, and there are at least six mre's per case, then we're talking a minimum of 16,632,000 mres. Any way you look at that, it is a large amount of prepared food, being tucked securely away in a limestone cavern in KCMO. It's three meals a day for 500,000 people for 11 days, and that's the low estimate, since today was deemed a slack day by those doing the labor. - - - - -- Note: this is from another source... came in after the top portion.... them. The full meal type MRE comes 12 per case, and the case weighs 17 pounds. So, for doing some math, double the figures you were dealing with. Using Robert's math that would come to 33,264,000 meals - using 22 work days per month, for 4 months, and the light work load experienced by Robert's friend that particular day. Assuming 12 per case, that's 2,772,000 cases at 17 pounds per case equals 47,124,000 pounds of food, or 23,562 tons. That would mean you could feed 500,000 people 3 meals per day for 22.17 days or roughly 100,000 people for just over 3 months (about 111 days actually). These are large numbers indeed and we can all look forward to learning more about this. Robert, can you put the local news people on it to open it up? Would that be wise or not? I don't know, but if appropriate, it's one heck of a story they may wish to track down. God bless all of you, << End of Forwarded message >> [snip] Local Y2K Update: I received a telephone call from a highly credible source. This informant told me that government employees recently attended a Y2K meeting in Orange County. At this meeting, one of the handouts was a listing of all the Mormon Canneries. Even more disturbing was the fact, these employees were casually told not to make this public so that they could have the necessary time to acquire their long-term storage food first. --------------08FDE2A053FE721F529722FE-- ********************************************** To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com with the message: (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address ********************************************** www.telepath.com/believer **********************************************