Sometimes these guys can still surprise even me. That statement below is about as blatant as it gets: [Freeh] There are a number of ways that that could be implemented, but what we believe we need as a minimum is a feature implemented and designed by the manufacturers of the products and services here that will allow law enforcement to have an immediate lawful decryption of the communications in transit or the stored data. That could be done in a mandatory manner. It could be done in an involuntary manner. But the key is that we have the ability. -------------------------------------------------------------- Let me get this straight: they need *as a minimum* instant access to all cleartext. So what is the "more than minimum" they truly desire? And the two alternatives Freeh proposes to obtain this *minimum* are either "mandatory" or "involuntary". What a choice! --Lucky