It occurred to me that this would be a good topic for an organized online debate. The results of which could be posted around. Jim Warren <jwarren@well.com> or "Jonathan Wallace" <jw@bway.net> would make good and fair moderators- Jonathan especially so since he has already participated in a similar debate on my mailing list and on his online zine The Ethical Spectacle http://www.spectacle.org/ . In that debate- Both participants were lawyers so they wrote rather extensive and good ground rules for the debate. But any trusted third party would work. A debate such as this will remove any "heat of the moment" commentary and might provide more light than heat? What do you think? Regards, Matthew Gaylor- ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, 2175 Bayfield Drive, Columbus, OH 43229 (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************