While I didn't respond to Sandy's poll, for the obvious reason plus the reason I use to almost never respond to polls, I'm not surprised at the results. Most of us learn as children that "name calling" is rarely an effective debating technique, and responding to such name calling even less so. (It may be that non-Americans, judging from several recent examples, are not exposed to the "sticks and stones" meme, and assume childish name-calling is effective debate.) A few years ago, when Detweiler was unable to convince people about his points by use of logic, he fell into this path, and ranted on and on for several months, before finally either burning out or having enough accounts yanked for abuse. I think not getting responses from me was what angered him the most. Interesting that Detweiler returned with a _Russian_ nym. Whether Vulis will burn himself out is unclear. Judging by his "spit" page, http://206.124.65.1:80/netscum/, I rather imagine he has a years-long supply of bile stored up. Must have been those cold Russian winters. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."