The problem is, of course, that the US simply cannot keep their dicks out of the affairs of other countries. We are obsessed with controlling how the world develops, so as to guarantee to force countries to evolve in such a way that is beneficial to the US. Such is an inevitable hazard of becoming the last remaining super-power; we know we can control the world, and have now (with the declaration of war in Iraq) let the world know that there's nothing anyone can do about it. The US wants the world to operate like a giant corporation run by old white fudge-packers who smile on TV and fuck us all behind closed doors. Terrorism, as you say, is the response of other countries who violently resent American involvement in affairs that, at their core, have nothing to do with the US. Unfortunately, the US's "war on terror" completely misses this point, and only serves to further the problem. Sure, we might kill a few existing "terrorists", but where do "terrorists" come from? Won't these actions create a larger and more hostile breeding ground for more people to lash out at US involvement in foreign affairs? The US government just doesn't understand, or just doesn't care. -Adam On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:21:06 -0400, "Tyler Durden" <camera_lumina@hotmail.com> said:
War is dangerous to freedom, but we do not have a choice of peace. The question is where the war is to be fought - in America, or elsewhere. War within America will surely destroy freedom.
So. Why don't we see terrorist attacks in Sweden, or Switzerland, or Belgium or any other country that doesn't have any military or Imperliast presence in the middle east? Is this merely a coincidence?
What I strongly suspect is that if we were not dickin' around over there in their countries, the threat of terrorism on US soil would diminish to very nearly zero. In other words, we DO have a choice of peace, and our choice was to pass on it.
-TD
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> To: "cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net" <cypherpunks@al-qaeda.net> Subject: Re: Airport insanity Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:39:05 -0700
-- Thomas Shaddack:
It isn't a problem for you until it happens to you. Who knows when being interested in anon e-cash will become a ground to blacklist *you*.
James A. Donald:
I know when it will happen. It will happen when people interested in anon ecash go on suicide missions. :-)
Bill Stewart
More likely, when anon ecash money-launderers start being accused of funding terrorist activities.
When e-currency handlers (cambists) are accused of money laundering terrorist's money, the feds steal the money, but they do not obstruct them from travelling, or, surprisingly, even from doing business - well, perhaps not so surprisingly, for if they stopped them from doing business there would be nothing to steal.
When the state uses repressive measures against those that seek to murder us, there is still a large gap between that and using repressive measures against everyone.
We are not terrorists, we don't look like terrorists, we don't sound like terrorists. Indeed, the more visible real terrorists are, the less even Tim McViegh looks like a terrorist and the more he looks like a patriot.
When people are under attack they are going to lash out, to kill and destroy. Lashing out an external enemy, real or imaginary, is a healthy substitute for lashing out at internal enemies. We do not have a choice of peace, merely a choice between war against external or internal enemies. Clearly, war against external enemies is less dangerous to freedom.
War is dangerous to freedom, but we do not have a choice of peace. The question is where the war is to be fought - in America, or elsewhere. War within America will surely destroy freedom.
What we need to fear is those that talk about the home front and internal security, those who claim that Christians are as big a threat as Muslims - or that black Muslims are as big a threat as Middle Eastern Muslims.
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