Hi, Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the concept of 'nation'? Are we faced with the incontrovertible truth that we either abandon the concepts of science/technology, accept a autocratic state where our every move is reviewed for threat potential, or do we find another solution to the problems of mankind other than the 'state'? Are these the only three choices? It is clear that any assault on 'method' will fail because there is an infinite regress. Instead we should focus on 'motive' since if a person is never motivated to commit the act in the first place the 'method' becomes moot. This raises the question of what does 'individual' or 'independent' mean in a technology filled world? It is also clear that CACL solutions won't work, the example of armed aircraft passengers during a high-jack clearly demonstrates how such confrontations can be turned against the passengers to their own detriment. Their very biological nature makes such solutions unworkable. Is it time that all forms of human government recognize the fundamental limits imposed by physics (something even CACL theory doesn't do)? Whatever solution works must include some form of neutral third party conflict resolution mechanism. And the solutions of that mechanism must not resort to forceful coercion. It must recognize the fundamental right of the individual to not go along with the majority in (nearly?) all cases. Is it time we recognize that the good of the many doesn't outweight the needs of the few in all cases? And that in any case the initiation of violence (physical or not) is never justified? That irrespective of the issue forcing someone to participate only creates more problems in the future that any possible good that may come from forcing the current resolution? That these problems will pile up until there is no solution other than a complete 'reboot'? That individuals have a fundamental right to say "No, I won't participate" irrespective of the issue? That in fact Lincolns 'universal law of nations' is nothing more than a scam? Does the threat of future technology applications justify abandoning those applications? Do we put a cap on our lifestyle? I propose that the only solution isn't forcing people to participate but rather offering voluntary opportunities to participate. Buy their cooperation. Is this the true future of 'economics'? -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------