At 4:13 AM -0500 11/30/00, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
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No, it _doesn't_ work. Clicking on your "mutt-positron" icon presented to me in Eudora caused Microsoft Word to launch on my system. Which gave me this message: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tim May <tcmay@got.net> wrote:
(And then there's Riad Wahby, whose signed messages are unopenable by Eudora Pro. He is doing _something_ which makes my very-common mailer choke on his messages. Not my problem, as his messages then get deleted by me unread. Again, standard ASCII is the lingua franca which avoids this problem.)
Does this work now, Tim? It seems that Mutt insists on changing the content-type of messages when it signs them. My choices were multipart PGP/MIME (the one I used up until now, which seemed to disagree with Eudora Pro) or application/pgp (which broke nmh, the mailer most people here use). In any case, I modified Mutt to give the option of sending PGP signed messages as content-type text/plain, so this should work for you. In fact, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know if it does, and I'll assume that no response means my attempt at fixing this problem was unsuccessful. By the way, if anyone wants my patches (against Mutt 1.2.5), e-mail me privately and I'll send them to you. - -- Riad Wahby rsw@mit.edu MIT VI-2/A 2002 5105 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6JhokiHor6RkxxqYRAly2AJ40KBa9IW7ZfhOpAiZVVH5rmmKAmgCggbjL FASj31M79LfoWmK58dtcw4k= =EadM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- So, you might say, "it works." Nope. Problems: 1. I ain't gonna read messages that require me to launch my word processor. Mail shouldn't need external word processors or text editors. 2. Your message is encrusted with MIME junk, formatted text, etc. I suggest you drop all the signing crap. As Bram Cohen pointed out in his recent message about "nobody bothers with key revocations," the sad fact is that nobody cares about message signings, at least not at the level of lists like this. I may have signed one or two of the messages I've sent out in the last 8 years of list traffic. Has my lack of signings _meant_ my messages were assumed to be from someone else? Fact is, PGP and SMIME went the _wrong_ direction when message signings started to require RTF, MIME, HTML, etc. (I realize these are not all the same thing. The real issue is "non-ASCII.") ASCII is where it's at, at least for e-mail. P.S. Please don't run your messages through Choate's ssz node, either. His "CDR:" encrustations are also a fucking waste of bits. ("Re: CDR: Re: Sunders point on copyright infringement & HTML") I'm sending this through algebra.com, so Choate's CDR: may get stripped off. Thanks. (However, Riad, I probably won't make this effort to read your messages if you don't fix the main problems covered above.) --Tim May -- (This .sig file has not been significantly changed since 1992. As the election debacle unfolds, it is time to prepare a new one. Stay tuned.)