<fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param> On Tuesday, October 17, 2000, at 08:19 PM, Tim May wrote: <italic>At 5:50 PM -0700 10/17/00, Nathan Saper wrote:</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:07:00PM -0400, David Honig wrote:</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>
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Not yet. But I believe the UK takes samples of everyone</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>
<italic></italic></color><italic>>> arrested (not necessarily guilty) of minor crimes, and some</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>>> US states and cities do or periodically propose doing this</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>>> or more.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>
The next question is: What do they do with this info? Insurance</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param>
<italic></italic></color><italic>>companies and the like use it to justify discrimination against people</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>>likely to develop certain medical conditions.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>Are you claiming that DNA collected by the police is then given to </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>insurance companies?</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>An audacious claim. Do you evidence to support this extraordinary claim?</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>I will be very interested to hear which communities, which states, </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>are doing this. So will many journalists, I hope.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>On the other hand, having heard that even getting a simple blood or </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>saliva sample requires court action, I expect you are once again </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>merely hand-waving.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> In the UK? I heard that in one community in the UK, in order to catch a rapist or somesuch, the police went around collecting DNA samples and arresting anyone who refused. After all, only someone with something to hide would refuse. Of course, this was television. <italic></italic></color><italic>As for insurance companies "discriminating," this is what I hope for. </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>Those of us who don't engage in certain practices--smoking, sky </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>diving, anal sex, whatever--should not be subsidizing those who do. </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>This is the beauty of "opt out" plans.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> Yes, only the genetically pure deserve health care. And you are sure that the insurance companies won't opt you out when they get a good look at your DNA? <italic></italic></color><italic>But the first order of business is for you to support your claim that </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>DNA is collected by the police and then shared with insurance </italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> <italic></italic></color><italic>companies.</italic><color><param>0000,0000,0000</param> Actually, that's your claim. But I'm surprised that you'er so ignorant of cooperation between government and corporations. Maybe you don't actually work for a living. You are aware of drug testing in the work place, aren't you?