In <19960907.200300.3174.0.Doom13@juno.com>, on 09/07/96 at 09:52 PM, doom13@juno.com (Floyd W Odom) said: =Dear Whoever, = I am doom13. If there is anyone out there who is a hacker or would =like to be one you can talk to me and find out stuff like cracking. =Just drop a message at doom13@juno.com. =Doom13 aw... come on, guy. in 25 years of the net, I've seen more than a few go down and these are generally not so blatant. up until 15 years ago when some 'strike panic in their hearts' bleeding pansy Wall Street Journal liberal journalist confused hacking with cracking, "hacker" had been a *badge of honor* hacking was a term used among profesionals to define someone much more than a programmer, or as one of the definitions put it: programmers program code, hackers tweak code. so, take your trolling hooks back to your government leash; go out and have some legitimate fun at your tender young age. cypherpunks are *not* crackers; this is a crytographic and political issues relating to cryptography mailing list. join one of the usenet groups such as alt.hacker or 2600 if you want that kind of action. have a good day! -- one of the few things we all share: the utter, corrosive contempt for our elected officials.