On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
Jim Choate:
Why is where they were killed important?
It is unimportant. What matters is what those one kill are doing.
Ah, here is the double standard in your argument.
British soldiers were repressing colonials. The guys in the trade towers were not doing anything to Muslims.
And what about the businesses that were used to support those British soldiers. Would they have been legitimate targets (which they were to the colonials)? In a parallel way the WTC is the business that supports the oppressive forces, or at least that's the way they see it. Then of course we can discuss the entire concept of 'property ownership', 'breaking contract' and 'repress colonials'. This brings up the aspect of 'self determination' that folks like yourself seem to be missing. Go read the first two para's of the DoI. Then reflect on this; The legitimate use of self-defence with respect to self-determination is from the view of the oppressed. No consideration is made for those who one fights against to end the oppression. Freedom is about the individual and what they are justified in doing if provoked. Now look at world politics since the 1850's...then consider certain rejoinders by the founding fathers about getting involved in other peoples business...then consider rampant globalization w/ centralized political and military authority... Further, you wish to us to view the WTC as a isolated senseless event, when in fact it is not. It is only one more act in a 140 year refutation of American Democracy. We reap what we sow. -- ____________________________________________________________________ The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------