"declan+@CMU.EDU" or someone using that identity has written: I fear the so-called "CyberAngels" more than I do the Feds. At least with their brand of jackboots, there can be accountability. The CyberAngels are more like CyberCads, CyberFrauds, or CyberCriminals. Cyber-vigilantes? Odd that their home page has a blue-ribbon. They don't seem to understand what the hell they are doing... it's not a requirement that ISPs require online presence to be verifiable anyway. Even if you're ISP operator knows who you are, it doesn't follow that it's definitely YOUR presence in a usenet post or on IRC. There's plenty of semi-anonymity on the net without using things like remailers or "decense" protocols or DC-Nets. Under their logic, we should all have little bar codes implanted in our skulls and checked at every street crossing and doorway. There's also a difference between rudeness and criminal activity. Anonymity isn't a cause of crime. It's icing on the cake, and criminals will find a variety of other ways around validated User-ID at the ISP level anyway.... which lulls one to a false sense of security, since once you're got a legitimate-appearing ID for your ISP, you can do quickie hit-and-run "cybercrimes" and fall off the face of the earth anyway. There's just so much an ISP or even a clerk at a department store can do to verify your identity. One store I know doesn't accept checks from Post Boxes, believing that they are all-too-often used for fraud... but a street address from a fly-by-night mail box rental is undetectable by them. The Cyber Angels are just as clueless as the authors of the CDA. Cheers, [***CENSORED***]