-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 21 Dec 1996, Mark Rosen wrote:
There are several problems with your argument: * You are making glaring generalizations regarding all members of an ethnic body; you don't seem to realize that intellect is based not on color or how you talk but on your brain (which has the same color and other basic properties in all humans, I believe)
That would be your generalization. Nowhere did anyone ever say that _all_ black people speak "Ebonics". I don't see why someone should hire someone if they can't even understand what that person is saying. Besides, I would suspect that a reasonably intelligent person would know how to speak correct English or at least make an attempt to do so.
* You are completely forgetting the other "non-English" group in America; the so-called White Trash or heavy Southern accents, which are violate just as many prissy and stuck up rules of grammar as Ebonics
No mention was made of "White Trash". You're drawing an invalid conclusion.
* You don't have to speak ebonics. You also don't have to speak with a Southern twang (or whatever the politically correct name for that is)
One also shouldn't have to hire such people either.
I also think that you are forgetting about the human aspect of your discrimination. For a second, put yourself in the place of a really smart black guy applying for a job at Intel. He is overqualified for the job. You
There is a logical correlation between intelligence and being able to follow English grammatical rules.
turn him down. Have you ever wondered what it does to a person to be turned down not on the basis of their moral character or intellect but by their skin? For someone to be told that they are stupid and are not competent to do this job? You don't realize that you are crushing _human_ lives, people who have feelings. If you would just put yourself in their place, you would realize the hurt that your are inflicting.
This has nothing to do with race. You are drawing another invalid conclusion. It has to do with dealing with people who will speak in a language that one can understand. English grammar is not simple, but an intelligent person would be able to at least grasp some of the basics of grammar and speak in a comprehensible language.
Out of curiousity, do you refuse from hiring people with Southern Accents? Or people who have heavy "asian" accents? I'm very surprised that a smart person like you, who believes in the power of strong cryptography, one of the greatest equalizing forces in the world, actively discriminates against other people who don't look or talk like you.
Crypto will allow people to actively discriminate against whomever they wish. It will also allow those who would be discriminated against to protect information about themselves to prevent discrimination. I don't support discrimination based on race, but language is a completely different matter. P.S. Spelling and grammar flames will be ignored. Mark - -- finger -l for PGP key PGP encrypted mail prefered. 0xf9b22ba5 now revoked -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMrxCJyzIPc7jvyFpAQFm2gf/dqdYTicQskfQN2UVnBGs/BK5YD7+ylID gk25Ki5ccPq08VhGCcoMRifWiJB3vauX+0dbhAVu5wkEUW9n2hAgpK3r3nuFH7r2 MAvPmMlRb0ro4Kd2EKoUHiRL2jzeJd5ztmuVRkBJ9A6Sp74xxM1JmMZMIFSS042m GY4rMXpNL+Pg5u3DGLpXtFHJvber35tsEx1C5PTcLHhHnJF0bDCPE/i+wGM72kJ8 DpuVnnRHLT/vhm7nRoRIePvdXcYgkR5/1epQ9sefBn0eaQYCCqjtu26ASnhtPf6l RjWH8neB7vGUqf9yxOhLnKOdTK8tfuQzkbfizYoncdzsKFbd1NRdVQ== =F+mv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----