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---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 06:07:48 -0400 From: David Farber Reply-To: farber@cis.upenn.edu To: ip-sub-1@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: IP: Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps
From: Monty Solomon Subject: Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps
October 18, 2001 Beyond Carnivore: FBI Eyes Packet Taps By Max Smetannikov
Expect the FBI to expand its Internet wiretapping program, says a source familiar with the plan.
Stewart Baker, a partner with law firm Steptoe & Johnson, is a
The info in the Interactive Week article is basically the same info from the National Journal article previously posted here, which leads me to suspect that Baker is simply repeating the same rumor to everyone who'll write about it. But..... it is interesting that they say "router manufacturers" here. I believe that what Baker "heard" was simply the FBI going out to people like Cisco and some of the larger network providers and people responsible for provisioning NAPs and saying "we want you to implement the additions to IPSEC that the IETF refused to implement". (For background, the FBI, DOJ, DoD -- the "usual suspects" -- had presented a series of recommendations to the IETF last year that would create "packet accounting" features in IPSEC protocols and future IP protocols.... they were rejected by the IETF, which stated at the time that the idea of creating built-in exploits to a protocol designed for security was counterintuitive. See http://www.ietf.org for more info.) Now, it is entirely possible that given the public pressure arising from the 9-11 attacks, individual manufacturers (read" "Cisco") might bow to such pressure, and build-in some of these features into future products AND into future software builds for existing products. So, I think this is what Baker "heard" -- not that the FBI has any such system in place or would have one anytime soon... rather, that the FBI will re-present these proposals one-on-one with Cisco and a few <major> network providers, and in effect, get the impact of their previously-rejected proposals implemented to cover maybe as much as 80% or more of the traffic in the domestic US. And besides access to the majority of USA packet traffic, they would have access to some part of international traffic too... it's beyong the scope of this email, but keep in mind that many non-USA NAPs are really connected to one another VIA the USA..... in effect, bug the USA NAPs, and you get access to almost all the traffic from Pacific Rim countries like Japan, Australia, etc. and you get access to small parts of Western Europe also, not to mention parts of Africa and the Middle East that uplink via satellite instead of a wired connection. An enterprising reporter might make an interesting article out of trying to track down exactly what parts of the IETF proposal the FBI wants (Declan?) and someone could post copies of the draft proposal as first released at ietf.org (JYA?). But I digress :) former
general counsel to the National Security Agency. He says the FBI has spent the last two years developing a new surveillance architecture that would concentrate Internet traffic in several key locations where all packets, not just e-mail, could be wiretapped. It is now planning to begin implementing this architecture using the powers it has under existing wiretapping laws.
http://www.interactiveweek.com/article/0,3658,s%3D605%26a% 253D16678,00.asp
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