Hal's reply to James Donald went out within minutes of mine, and made roughly the same points I made (his "endorsement" by Dvorak example is eerily similar to the example I used, about endorsing Detweiler). Maybe Detweiler was right...maybe we _are_ tentacles! --Tim the Tentacle -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."