C'punks, For those of you, like Reese, who were unsure or mistaken as to the meaning of "socialized" when I wrote that Reese was "poorly socialized," I refer you to definition #2 of "socialize" from dictionary.com: so7cial7ize (s sh -l z) v. so7cial7ized, so7cial7iz7ing, so7cial7iz7es v. tr. 1. To place under government or group ownership or control. 2. To make fit for companionship with others; make sociable. 3. To convert or adapt to the needs of society. Please compare that to either definition of "politically correct," also from dictionary.com: politically correct adj. Abbr. PC 1. Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation. 2. Being or perceived as being overconcerned with such change, often to the exclusion of other matters. So for future reference, if I should use the term "socialized" in reference to a person, I mean definition #2. If I use it in reference to a practice, organization, market segment, etc. I mean definition #1 or #3. Clear enough? S a n d y