At 7:22 PM -0800 2/19/98, Brian B. Riley wrote:
The next time you "cheer to see the U.S. gets its tail kicked", why don't you think about the American troops who lost their lives or were maimed, or who were doing something they may have been personally and morally against, but they chose to be professional soldiers, and instead of displaying cowardice, they tried to do what was asked of them.
I prefer to view what Tim said in the context that "Amerika" the ugly got its tail kicked in the broader sense. I don't believe that Tim took any pleasure in seeing American soldiers getting killed.
Precisely. I took no special glee in seeing U.S. soldiers killed in Somalia. (By the way, I also took no special glee in seeing young Russian boys burning to death as their Hind helicopter plummeted to the ground after being hit by a Redeye or Stinger missile...but I was happy to see the Russian invaders have their asses kicked.) The United States has undertaken in the last half of this century to get involved in exactly the sort of "foreign wars" that Washington warned us of. Adventurism, really. That some young American boys (and a few girls) die in such vanity wars is regrettable, but it doesn't change my view of the wars, or the wish I have that the U.S. lose the wars and so, perhaps, rethink its adventurist, imperialist, statist, New World Big Brother Order geopolitical view. Since the lessons really didn't take in past wars, whether won or lost, I'm really, really, really hoping for a debacle in this one. The sinking of an aircraft carrier, with the deaths of several thousand young boys, might do it. As for their deaths, their choice is to not enlist. Or, if they enlisted, to refuse to go the Gulf for this war. (A Santa Cruz local, Erik Larsen, did exactly this in Desert Storm. He refused to go.) If they go fight in Clinton's dirty little vanity war, and they get killed, tough shit. Think of it as evolution in action. And as for the thread name here, "PLO censoring pro-Iraqi sentiments, it's reprehensible that the U.S. is pushing a "peace process" which condones this kind of censorship. Better to just let the Arabs fight the Jews, without any funding from U.S. slave-taxpayer-units. If the Arabs kill all the Jews I'll say it was a really, really stupid ideas for a bunch of Jews from Poland and Germany and Russia to go kick out a bunch of "sand niggers" and "ragheads" and not expect retribution to someday arrive. Oh, and spare me the typical Zionist rhetoric about how "YHWH" or Whatever It's Damned Name Is "promised" this land to the Jews, despite their Polish or Russian or Ukrainian residency and genetics for thousands of years. Fucking religious fruitcakes. --Tim May Just Say No to "Big Brother Inside" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^3,021,377 | black markets, collapse of governments.