Thanks Mattd :-) On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 keyser-soze@hushmail.com wrote:
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:38:57 -0800 From: keyser-soze@hushmail.com Reply-To: cypherpunks@ssz.com To: cypherpunks@lne.com Subject: CDR: Re: End of the IRS??
At 12:00 AM 1/8/2002 -0500, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> wrote:
I've never quite understood how the amendment-not-ratified-properly-in-1913 argument is supposed to play out.
If this were 1915 and we suddenly realized that there was some funny business going on, that would be one thing.
But much has changed in the last 90 or so years. Courts have allowed the federal government to seize power not granted by the Constitution (and, in some cases, strictly prohibited by it). Booze prohibition required a constitutional amendment; drug prohibition wouldn't.
All the more reason to go on a mindless killing spree.
So even if someone were to prove that the 16th Am. wasn't quite kosher, what would stop the courts from saying -- it wasn't necessary?
No but it would provide whatever moral basis one needs to terminate the vermin with extreme prejudice. What's needed are a few terminally ill militia minded souls to give up their last few weeks for the cause. I know I wouldn't hesitate. Maybe an anon cash pool, collected after the fact, to support these patriots' families could be used to offer additional incentive.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty " --- Thomas Jefferson
-- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------