In article <strnlghtCpzCqo.Jzr@netcom.com>, David Sternlight <david@sternlight.com> wrote: Putting it another way, I can't get an RSA Certificate without passing a number of tests of my identity--for the Unaffiliated User Heirarchy that involves proving to a Notary Public I'm me, with 3 pieces of ID including a photo ID, and making that assertion under penalty of perjury. So? Don't sign anyone's PGP key unless they've proved to a Notary Public they're them, with 3 pieces of ID including a photo ID, making that assertion under penalty of perjury. Tell everyone that that's your level of certification. If people have reason to believe you, you'll gain reputation and trust. You put too much trust in "the authorities", David. -russ <nelson@crynwr.com> ftp.msen.com:pub/vendor/crynwr/crynwr.wav Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | Quakers do it in the light Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do.