From dmorton@bitfurnace.com Fri Jul 6 02:30:34 2018 From: Damien Morton To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: [FoRK] NarcoGliders, was: Re: Narco Subs - The Triumph of Capitalism Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 02:30:34 +0000 Message-ID: <172289268007.3881296.4402475095020304979.generated@mail.pglaf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5233158353307093226==" --===============5233158353307093226== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable These guys have a magnesium seawater powered UUV and are getting a 3600km range, with 760L inside the pressure hull. http://202.114.89.60/resource/pdf/2509.pdf An this is decade old techmology. Some stone age forest dwelling crack zombies could surely bang out something half as efficient, right? On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:39 AM, Damien Morton wrote: > Magnesium seawater battery - its pretty much bronze age techmology - > http://www-odp.tamu.edu/publications/191_IR/chap_03/c3_5.htm > > Can melt > down alloy car wheels for a start. Otherwise AZ61 alloy is hardly a > controlled substance. Only other thing you need is twisted > wire titanium brushes with carbon fiber bristles. Easily made in some South > Asian sweatshop, with barely a record kept. > > The electronics is the tricky stuff, but once you get the first one > working, replicating to 1000s is easy enough. Again, south asian sweatshops, > or buying a middle tier chinese RC toy maker isnt out of reach for the South > American combinas. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Stephen Williams wrote: > >> Really 'game over' if our southern businessmen build NarcoGliders... >> No external propellers or emissions of any kind, potential for total >> silence, super efficient long range, easy antenna raising, great depth... >> >> >> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/government/5-insanely-cool-robots-youll-desperat= ely-want-but-never-be-able-to-afford/10247?pg=3D2 >> >> How many of these have been sold in South America? >> >> Anyway, go iRobot! >> >> On 4/2/11 6:43 PM, Stephen Williams wrote: >> >>> On 4/2/11 6:08 PM, Damien Morton wrote: >>> >>>> When these guys get really smart and start churning out thousands >>>> bathtub >>>> sized robosubs powered by magnesium seawater batteries, it truly is >>>> game-over. Until then, its WW2 tech all the way. >>>> >>>> What the fuck do you do when invaded by swarms of 1000s of silent >>>> robosubs >>>> bearing 50kg of cocaine, swimming up your rivers, your drainage outlets, >>>> your harbours, and your god-damned toilets. >>>> >>> >>> You change the economics... If they're delivering fresh papaya and >>> coffee, it wouldn't be so bad would it? ;-) And we could send back iPads >>> to be good recyclers. If you don't change the economics, then you have to >>> live with the fact that you're always going to be outnumbered and outsmar= ted >>> by the SillyNarco Valley "startups" of the _deep_ South. >>> >> >> sdw >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FoRK mailing list >> http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork >> > > _______________________________________________ FoRK mailing list http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE --===============5233158353307093226==--