From declan@well.com Thu Sep 27 11:51:43 2001 From: Declan McCullagh To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: When the FBI Guys Come Knocking Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:51:43 +0000 Message-ID: <20010927111224.A18572@cluebot.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3280266655640180977==" --===============3280266655640180977== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 10:29:42AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: > Aimee may or may not be an agent, but this incarnation of An > Metet sure looks like an agent procovateur, trying to salt this list with > outrageous posts which Jeff Gordon and his merry men can later haul out > to show that anyone with contact with the list is a priori a bad guy. > > For the record, this kind of thing is very atypical on this list. Agreed. That kind of nasty rant would seem to be authored by an agent provocateur, or a very juvenile flamer. It's hardly representative of discussions here. -Declan --===============3280266655640180977==-- From tcmay@got.net Thu Sep 27 11:59:41 2001 From: Tim May To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Cypherpunks declared to be a terrorist organization? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:59:41 +0000 Message-ID: <200109271551.f8RFprf21386@slack.lne.com> In-Reply-To: <20010927111224.A18572@cluebot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0477313437621938175==" --===============0477313437621938175== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday, September 27, 2001, at 08:12 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 10:29:42AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: >> Aimee may or may not be an agent, but this incarnation of An >> Metet sure looks like an agent procovateur, trying to salt this list >> with >> outrageous posts which Jeff Gordon and his merry men can later haul out >> to show that anyone with contact with the list is a priori a bad guy. >> >> For the record, this kind of thing is very atypical on this list. > > Agreed. That kind of nasty rant would seem to be authored by an agent > provocateur, or a very juvenile flamer. It's hardly representative of > discussions here. It probably doesn't matter, as the persecutors get to cherrypick the posts they offer as evidence of a conspiracy. Given the new Anti-Terrorism laws the Congressvermin are racing to pass, there's a chance the Cypherpunks list/group will be placed on the list of terror organizations, with any support for (such as running nodes) declared to be illegally supporting an illegal organization. ---Tim May --===============0477313437621938175==-- From Eugene.Leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de Thu Sep 27 12:06:13 2001 From: Eugene Leitl To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: Cypherpunks declared to be a terrorist organization? Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 12:06:13 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200109271551.f8RFprf21386@slack.lne.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3350144790423075488==" --===============3350144790423075488== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Tim May wrote: > Given the new Anti-Terrorism laws the Congressvermin are racing to > pass, there's a chance the Cypherpunks list/group will be placed on > the list of terror organizations, with any support for (such as > running nodes) declared to be illegally supporting an illegal > organization. Are any cypherpunks nodes being operated outside of U.S.? Can subscription to an international mailing lists be outlawed? -- Eugen* Leitl leitl ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 --===============3350144790423075488==--