From mansourmoufid@gmail.com Fri Jul 6 02:35:36 2018 From: Mansour Moufid To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Leave Your Cellphone at Home Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 02:35:36 +0000 Message-ID: <172289275622.3881296.15786735050058695478.generated@mail.pglaf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5649297362134521403==" --===============5649297362134521403== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-09-05, at 6:16 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote: > http://nplusonemag.com/leave-your-cellphone-at-home >=20 > Sarah Resnick >=20 > Leave Your Cellphone at Home >=20 > Interview with Jacob Appelbaum >=20 > From OCCUPY Gazette 4, out May 1. Very interesting read. I'm not sure I buy the theories for the new data centre. Drive capacity has increased on the same order of magnitude as Internet traffic, [1,2] so I doubt the increase in traffic from current targets is the reason for it. I also doubt extending the surveilled set by 5% to include the US is the reason. Besides, according to the whistleblowers, everything that's attributed to it has been going on for a long time. Unless there's concrete evidence I haven't heard of, I tend to believe it actually is for "cybersecurity", specifically the insider threat. These agencies monitor their own people (and soon-to-be corporate partners) far more than the public. On that note, apparently there's half a dozen versions of HR 3523 around, and NSA versus DHS (aka "the happy face") is an artificial distinction, meant to appease. [3] Anyway, I think cryptography will depend more and more on steganography -- and in the case of Tor, covert/subliminal channels. Imagine a protocol where Alice sends Bob a steady stream of garbage, and the message is encoded in the inter-packet timing noise. ;) [1] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DFile:Hard_drive_capacity_ov= er_time.svg [2] http://www.useit.com/alertbox/980405.html [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS40Qx9kVPoY#t=3D29m20s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS40Qx9kVPoY#t=3D50m _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE --===============5649297362134521403==--