From jacob@appelbaum.net Fri Jul 6 02:31:34 2018 From: Jacob Appelbaum To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Modern FIDONET for net disable countries? Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2018 02:31:34 +0000 Message-ID: <172289280174.3881296.12975044143752306521.generated@mail.pglaf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9012669902522783198==" --===============9012669902522783198== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric S Johnson: > For the record, Burma/Myanmar (MM) has very little cybercensorship > now (the previous censorship started loosening up in about August > 2011 and was basicallyb=14not entirely, but mostlyb=14dropped by the end of > October 2011). >=20 Hi, I've just returned from Burma in the last month. There is total surveillance in Burma on the commercial YTP ISP. They censor plenty of sites and their BlueCoat proxy devices fail to deliver content for unblocked sites often. The other networks seem rather under surveillance as well and they also have censorship. We (OONI) have data from my trip there and it includes all of the major networks. We'll write it up and publish all of it soon. > Ib=19ve been visiting MM since the mid-aughts and have never encountered > FidoNet there. Havenb=19t seen it since Africa, mid-nineties. But that > doesnb=19t mean it wasnb=19t/isnb=19t there. >=20 I haven't seen FidoNet but I did see lots of WiMax, VSAT, GSM/CDMA and even some discussion of X.25, etc. >=20 >=20 > (Vietnam still has a measurable amount of online censorship, but itb=19s > not nearly as heavy-handed as Chinab=19s or Iranb=19s. Itb=19s more like > Ethiopiab=19s. >=20 Ethiopia has extremely sophisticated censorship: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection https://blog.torproject.org/blog/update-censorship-ethiopia > Some of Cambodiab=19s ~30 ISPs censor a half-dozen sites, but thatb=19s > hardly serious (the largest, Vietnamese-controlled, ISP doesnb=19t!).) >=20 The serious problem is the infrastructure even if today it is only used on a few sites. All the best, Jake -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanfor= d.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 Eugen* Leitl leitl http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE --===============9012669902522783198==--