From eugen@leitl.org Thu Oct 13 07:26:24 2011
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>
To: cypherpunks-legacy@lists.cpunks.org
Subject: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on  	Tor
 are....?)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:26:24 +0000
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Has been covered extensively on Fefe's blog as well.

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From lodewijkadlp@gmail.com Thu Oct 13 08:01:24 2011
From: lodewijk =?utf-8?q?andr=C3=A9?= de la porte <lodewijkadlp@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the  effects on
  Tor are....?)
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:01:24 +0000
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All non-windows OS's are less likely targets due to a lower market share.
Linux has complete rights management, although using it properly is the
user's (or his/her root's) responsibility. Mac has a good reputation but I'm
not an expert on it.

What's even better is chrome/chromium OS. Don't install anything, browser
only. No place to install spyware.

Lewis

2011/10/13 Eugen Leitl <eugen(a)leitl.org>

> Has been covered extensively on Fefe's blog as well.
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> From: William Wrightman <williamwrightman(a)yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:39:12 -0700 (PDT)
> To: tor-talk(a)lists.torproject.org
> Subject: [tor-talk] German police keylogger analysis (and the effects on
> Tor
>        are....?)
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> Here is an article which details the German federal police's use of
> keyloggers.
>
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/german-gov-spyware/
>
> There are also links to Wired's coverage of the FBIs keylogger which are
> well worth a read.
>
> Keyloggers would, I assume, defeat the whole purpose of Tor since the URL
> would be recorded and sent to the fedz.
>
> How to overcome?  My impression is that no-one is sending .exe attachments
> these days but rather exploiting unpatched browsers by tricking people to
> visiting a site (although of course they can always install it manually).
>
> I suppose that up-to-date anti-virus and anti-malware might help if you are
> on Windows.  And, of course, using NoScript and blocking Flash and suchlike.
>
> What would be the situation if you are using Linux (such as Ubuntu for
> example).  I realise that keyloggers must exist for Linux but would they be
> more difficult to install?
>
> Is moving to Linux one solution?
>
>
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