Until, as Andrew "Bunnie" Hwang has written, we have fully OS CPUs and
   SoCs (including the pre-boot code which is still proprietary for even
   otherwise open designs) we can't even begin to trust them.

   On Sun, Aug 26, 2018, 12:22 AM grarpamp <[1]grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

     On 8/24/18, Steven Schear <[2]schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
     > I am told, by a very involved developer in this field, that these
     concerns
     > are a bit overhyped, limited to now outdated Via C3 CPUs.
     Of course this anon developer will say that,
     they're either fiction, not in the loop, or an agent.
     And unless it's open, neither of you can prove that.
     >> #OpenFabs , #OpenHW , #OpenSW , #OpenDev , #OpenBiz
     >> You have zero trust until those happen. ZERO.
     >> Publishing the backdoors in Intel's products, and
     >> all the others... makes a fine AP crowdfund target.
     >> Because the Wikileaks model so far either didn't get
     >> or hasn't published the scoop.

References

   1. mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com
   2. mailto:schear.steve@gmail.com