Piece of trivia: The "Geographic pole" actually wanders a bit, probably mostly due to displacements of the mass of oceans and the atmosphere. I think it's on the order of about 100 meters or so. Presumably, this has to be accounted for in the calculations used by GPS receivers. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_polar_wander This doesn't have anything to do with the movement of the magnetic poles, BTW. Jim Bell On Saturday, May 12, 2018, 8:37:43 AM PDT, Georgi Guninski wrote: is there place on earth where the sun doesn't rise from near east? counterexample will be near the poles. there are two kinds of poles: geographic pole and magnetic pole. it appears to depend how they are placed: the middle of the line between them is a good candidate -- in this case exchanging them will swap directions. References 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_polar_wander