I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually
   specify it precisely).
   I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn
   pathetic too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both
   wrong about personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at
   least) on a public email list on hacker culture.
   Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You
   should take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level,
   you should not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a
   time before replying.
   Do whatever is healthier for you.
   On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka
   <[1]cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:

   On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <[2]skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:

     On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
     > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list?
     and
     > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
     Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and
     outright
     pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist
     (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and
     dishonest
     spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and
     #$%&#$ %&#$%&#$.

   Shawn,
   I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever.  Ben did
   probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or
   purposely ignored them.  He criticized only my answers and, well, his
   aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
   **I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign runaway
   hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely
   offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
   He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my
   messages, honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some
   weeks ago, contacted me in private asking about me.  I was so, really
   so happy for knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he
   was doing good...  I was very stupid.
   Well, not my problem anymore.  He knows very well how much I do hate
   false and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again.  Really
   sorry for wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private
   messages asking for help and answering to them when he was feeling
   deeply sad and lost.
   I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I
   used to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently
   **not** a problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this
   message and giving it an answer.  Anyway, he died for me yesterday and
   I think a supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create
   messages filters.
   Wish you all a lovely day.  I will lurk for some time because it will
   certainly be much healthier for me.
   ** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who think
   it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really
   shocking to mention sex.  It's f_cking creepy and unfair because James'
   messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted,
   but if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and
   destroying it.  Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
   D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing...  ;P
   Take care, dear all.  Or not, your choice only.
   c.

References

   1. mailto:cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com
   2. mailto:skquinn@rushpost.com