On 09/02/2017 06:06 PM, grarpamp wrote: Less time hobbled on "psychedelics". More time on "revolutin". Or at least gettin hippie dirty, jiggystyle. Crypto rave, on. Some of the brightest luminaries of the time took L. Like Richard Feynman, Alan Watts (who had some really BAD things to say about TeeVee and indoctrination... the kind of indoctrination LSD can eradicate with guidance [1]), and Jean-Paul Sartre Shortlist: [2]https://thethirdwave.co/famous-people-psychedelics/ It was in civilian circulation as an adjunct to psychotherapy for alcoholism (and MDMA, a methamphetamine derivative with psychedelic properties inferior to LSD, but easier to produce, is currently in use for PTSD treatment and about to be 'normalized'.)... It worked for Bill W, the guy who founded AA, when he was in psychotherapy. It worked so well that all the stats kept were expunged leaving only the fact that there were such studies done.. It 'worked' for a lot of people, who had goals in it's usage, and your 'hobbled' bullshit, just like the everlasting BS trope about Pot making people unmotivated and apathetic... Well, they were that way to start with. The ONLY drugs that FORCE change, are ones the petrochemical-pharmaceutical industry 'cooks'. Carlos Santana, "Tripper", on that. “I always tell people there’s a big difference between drugs, which man makes, and medicine, which Mother Earth makes. There’s a big distinction there. I think they should legalize medicine and they should outlaw drugs. Anheuser-Busch is a drug; cigarettes are a drug. Anything that imprisons you is a drug; anything that liberates you is medicine." He was tripping here [3] He said he expected to go on 12 hours later but the schedule changed. Those faces he was making? He said the neck of the guitar was turning into a snake and he was trying to get it to 'hold still'. The performance is STILL electrifying almost 50 years later. He never missed a lick, not a note out of time or off-tune. Ps... About that "revolutin" thang. Now go fuck yourself and your high horse too. Rr References 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmBymKXgrV4 2. https://thethirdwave.co/famous-people-psychedelics/ 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBG6IaSQCpU